When Joseph Smith gets something right he was speaking as a prophet of God but when Smith is wrong they say he was merely expressing a personal opinion and not acting in the capacity of a prophet.
(That's also how they explain away Brigham Young's statement about men in Quaker uniforms living on the moon)
Old Testament Prophets on the other hand always said when Their Message Was from God so that there would be no doubt, confusion or back flipping, for example:
Isaiah 1:2 - The Lord has spoken.
Jeremiah 10:1,2 - Hear the word which the Lord speaks. Thus says the Lord...
Ezekiel 1:3 - The word of the Lord came expressly.
Hosea 1:1,2 - The word of the Lord that came ... the Lord began to speak by Hosea, the Lord said...
Jonah 1:1 - The word of the Lord came to Jonah.
Micah 1:1 - The word of the Lord that came to Micah.
Zech. 1:1 - The word of the Lord came to Zechariah.
[See also Joel 1:2; Amos 1:3,6, etc; Obad. 1:1; Zeph. 1:1; Hab. 2:2; Deuteronomy 30:9,10; Numbers 12:6-8; 23:5,12,16,19
But just claiming to speak for God is not good enough because anyone could say that even if it wasn't true, so according to the Bible a true prophet who speaks for God:
1. Makes detailed, specific, verifiable, predictions that come 100% true, 100% of the time.
2. Even If they pass Test #1 and/or do other signs and wonders, if they then tell you to follow other Gods they are false prophets and fail the test.
A true prophet is therefore 100% accurate AND leads people to the God of the Bible, not away from him.
It is difficult to see how New Age Psychics and Mediums, the self-styled prophets of some of the more recent religions, and even some present day ';Christian'; prophets, would qualify as a genuine prophet if held to the Biblical standards of prophecy.
But Mormons have that covered too because they say the Bible has not been correctly translated so those traditional tests of a true prophet don't apply to them.
Even if they are right about that (despite them having no evidence that the Bible was wrongly translated) common sense would dictate that (a) specifying WHEN you are speaking for God (b) being specific and detailed so your predictions can be verified and (c) being 100% accurate even time you make a prediction is STILL the best and only way to differentiate between a true prophet and a false prophet.
The fact that the Bible does say the same thing is further validation of the logic of that good old fashioned common sense!
EDIT:
Kayla K: it's true Joseph Smith was a man and all men makes mistakes and sin, so when they speak as a man offering a personal opinion they may be wrong, but at the times they speak for God (under the guidance of the Holy Spirit) what they say is always 100% accurate.
guyster: Jesus didn't say ';You people I am speaking to now';, he said ';this generation';. ';This Generation'; could refer to the generation that is alive at the time the end times events commence.
It could equally apply to the Nation of Israel meaning that Israel will, against all the odds, survive .
The Greek word translated as Generation could also be translated as ';race'; meaning the human race will not pass away until after all these events have unfolded.
It can also be translated as ';age'; meaning the church age which was being ushered in by Christ will not pass away until everything is fulfilled, so there are at least FOUR ways Jesus' prophecy could still come true and all those ways are 100% compatible with each other so they could all come true simultaneously.Could you call Joseph Smith a false prophet since his prophecies were mostly wrong?
By there fruits, ye shall know them.
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Could you call Joseph Smith a false prophet since his prophecies were mostly wrong?
YES and by the way prophecies made by a true prophet are ALWAYS right, because the prophecies are given by God and God is always right. The prophets in the Bible weren't perfect and did make mistakes. They weren't sinless. The same will be of today's prophets and the prophets to come. It's their prophecies we need to be aware of and know which are true or not. The only way to find out if prophecies are of God is to read the Bible and see if the Bible supports those prophecies. This is another step to check whether a person is a true prophet. See if the Bible supports their beliefs and prophecies.
I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself, but these are things we need to know today, because false prophets will become more prolific before the Lord comes. We need to know how to recognize them.
Yes. It only takes one false prophecy to make a false prophet. And that is according to God's Word, not man's. And Yeshua(Jesus) was not a prophet. He didn't prophecy. He is the Messiah. He FULFILLED prophecy.
God bless!
Is John the Beloved a false prophet because not all of his prophecies have been fulfilled already? Isiah? Jeremiah? Ezekiel? Hosea? Joel? Amos? Obadiah? Jonah? Micah? Nahum? Habakkuk? Zephaniah? Haggai? Zechariah ? Did I miss any? Lots!!
Evidently you can because you interpret whatever he said in your own mind to fit your idea of:
1. What prophecy is.
2. What Smith meant.
Edit: How about some actual links or hard references to the so-called prophecies or statements?
Sure, just like you can claim to be an atheist when in reality you are a fundamentalist.
You can call others (or yourself) by whatever labels you choose. It doesn't make it so.
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There were false prophesies in the bible too.
Jesus said he'd return within the lifetime of those he spoke to.
It could be that ALL religions are false religions.
To be considered a prophet you CAN NOT have mistaken / wrong prophesies period! If you do then you ARE a false prophet!
Any prophet of God would be 100% correct... If the prophet erred even once he is not a prophet of God's for God knows everything from the beginning...
I would not use the words ';Prophet'; and ';Joseph Smith'; together period.
just because he may be wrong doesnt make him a false prophet. as long as he preaches that Jesus is the savour and the only way to heaven is though Him alone.
Yes, watched the movie September Dawn the other night, Great Movie by the way!! Anyway Him and Brigham Young are total wack jobs
Yes
No. I have yet to see one of his prophecies proven wrong.
Of course he was .A real prophet,the Bible says is 100% accurate at all times.
Sure you should
Those are just the tip of the ice burg!
Jesus is God's spokesman today, not man. There are no modern day prophets after Christ! (Heb 1:1-2)
yes
If I base my answer to your example I definitely say YES. Did he really say all that?
God says he is a false prophet.I agree with God.
Joseph Smith was a man and all man makes mistakes and sins.
YES!
YES!
YES!
I checked your source and compared it to the original source that has not been changed and altered by wicked people in an attempt to belittle and discredit.
Your source is weak at best.
For those that are interested, the original link is here;
http://www.kristus.dk/jkk/text.php?id=90鈥?/a>
You will find that the original is much more believable than that put out by enemies of the Church.
Joseph Smith made No false prophecy.
In your finite mind you think that Christ did not appear to the Brethren at the Temple, just as the Jews are still waiting for the return of Elijah.
Do not think for one second that because you and thousands of others missed it, that it did not happen.
When He says the moon will be turned to blood, don't stand around waiting for it to bleed on you.
It would be best for all to study their scripture so that they can know what they are talking about.
Just for example...Do you know how many times Moses was wrong????
didn't think so
Test of True %26amp; False Prophets
What is some test by which to detect false prophets?
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.
Deuteronomy 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that [is] the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, [but] the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
What other test should be applied in determining the validity of the claims of a prophet?
Deuteronomy 13:1-4 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
What rule did Christ give for distinguishing them?
Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
I don't know where you are getting some of these prophesies, but you are way off. Next time, do your homework before you start mormon bashing!
I can call Jesus a false prophet too. Read yer freakin Bible.
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