Sunday, February 7, 2010

If I quoted Isaiah 53 past tense passages as future prophecy from God, am I a false prophet?

Prophets are specially appointed by the One and Only God :-)If I quoted Isaiah 53 past tense passages as future prophecy from God, am I a false prophet?
There can be a certain time effect in prophecies, as if the prophet was looking back, since he imighinatively sees himself in the future. So Isaiah 53 can be like people ';looking back'; and commenting on the sacrifice of Christ.





Consider this other prophecy of Daniel where you see the same thing:


Daniel 7:13-14


I was watching in the night visions, and behold one like a Son of Man, coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days and they brought Him near before Him. Then to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom. That all peoples,nations and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion which shall not pass away, and his kingdom the one which shall not be destroyed.





In the process of the vision, Daniel starts looking back, since he is thinking of the time the vision pertains to. The event is in the future, but seeing it happening, he uses past tenses at some points, eg ';To Him WAS given dominion and glory..';, So even though it hadn't happened at that time, in a sense to Daniel the one having the vision, it had already happened, as he is seeing a vision of it.If I quoted Isaiah 53 past tense passages as future prophecy from God, am I a false prophet?
Not altogether wrong. In his letter to the Romans, Paul quotes Isaiah’s words to show that the prophecy heard and recorded by Isaiah came true in Jesus. Philip the evangelizer also helped the Ethiopian Eunuch to appreciate the fulfillment was in Jesus. (Acts Chapter 8 and Romans 10:16, 17) But as for Isaiah 53:10, 11,


blessings would result with the prospect of delivering mankind from sin and death! He brings “a righteous standing to many,” even now. First the 144,000 anointed are adopted as sons with heavenly life in view up to now and into the future. Then too, “a great crowd” of “other sheep” [notice other sheep besides the little flock of Luke 12:32] exercise faith in Jesus’ shed blood and enjoy a righteous standing with a view to being friends of God and survivors of Armageddon. That part of the prophecy besides the resurrection are future fulfilling of the prophecy friend.—Revelation 7:9; 16:14, 16; John 10:16; James 2:23, 25; John 5:28,29.





Thus regarding the resurrection, Jehovah appreciates the loyalty of “the many” faithful ones of ancient times, including Noah, Abraham, and Job, and he has reserved “a portion” for them in his coming new world. (Hebrews 11:13-16) Along with others including from modern times who've died faithful or in ignorance, Acts 24:15 says there will be a resurrection to life on this earth. Jesus as Messiah and his sacrifice will benefit all at that time. Jehovah's Witnesses would be glad to help you find more info on this and help you see how we can qualify for this. Why not listen to them next time they call at your home. Good question. Take care!
Who was this dude who was ';smitten by God';? Surely you don't think this refers to the person you know as Jesus?





This could apply to anyone who was unpopular and had fallen on hard times - what a stretch!





I suggest you read: http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml8…
The section of the book of Isaiah from chapter 40 to the end is known as Isaiah II because it is not prophetic works of Isaiah but a post-exilic poem cycle, the work of anonymous author long after Isaiah had died. These passages have been beautifully, but wrongly, used by Christian apologists as Messianic prophecies; they actually refer to the Jews suffering under the Babylonian Captivity.
The biggest mistake people make in communication, is thinking other people already know what they are talking about. I wish people would put the verse they are talking about on here.
It is not future prophecy the whole chapter pertains to Jesus Christ and his death, it was fulfilled in 33 CE.
If you claim to be a prophet, yes.





Apparently you don't know much about the Old Testament
uuuhhhh...i agree with 1st comment

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