Sunday, February 7, 2010

Did Isaiah,Ezekiel,Jeremiah,Daniel or any other true prophet have to admit to any of their false prophecies?

Some prophecies were accurate because, quite simply, they were written after the event it purports to have foreseen. The Book of Daniel is a good example of this. It pretends to have been written during the time of the exile, that is around the sixth century BCE. Today, it is has been shown that Daniel was actually written around the second century BCE.


Other prophecies were not prophecies at all, but have readings forced into them by believers. The “virgin birth” prophecy of Jesus found in Isaiah 7:14 is one such case.


Still other prophecies fulfilled events that never occurred! In fact the supposed events were constructed purely from the Old Testament through a method called midrash. Many of the messianic prophecies supposedly fulfilled in Jesus' life are of this type, thus, not only are many “fulfilled” prophecies suspect, many a time the prophets simply got their prophecies wrong!


The prophet Isaiah, for instance, foretold the drying up of all the waters of the Egypt, and the destruction of all land used for plantation due to this drying up of the River Nile.





';And the waters of the Nile will be dried up, and the river will be parched and dry; and its canal will become foul, and the branches of Egypt's Nile will diminish and dry up, reeds and rushes will rot away. There will be bare places by the Nile, on the brink of the Nile, and all that is sown by the Nile will dry up, be driven away, and be no more.'; Isaiah 19:5-7


This part of Isaiah, widely accepted by scholars to be written around the eighth century BCE, is about 2750 years old. And in all this period of two and three quarters millennia, this prophecy has yet to be fulfilled! Moreover it is clear from the context that Isaiah prophecy was meant for the Egypt of his time. For it was with that Egypt that Isaiah and his people had a grievance against, and the prophecy was a warning to them. Obviously this is a clear example of an unfulfilled prophecy. ( Howell-Smith, In Search of the Real Bible: p40)





In a similar vein, Isaiah predicted the complete and utter destruction of Damascus;


';An oracle concerning Damascus. See, Damascus will cease to be a city, and will become a heap of ruins. Her towns will be deserted forever'; Isaiah 17:1-2





it is now almost three millennia since that prophecy and Damascus remains a vibrant city to this day. While Damascus had been overran many times in its past, it is still around. Thus the prophecy that says Damascus will cease to be a city forever is obviously false (Callahan, Bible Prophecy: p60)





Isaiah also spoke of a prophecy God made to Ahaz, the King of Judah that he would not be harmed by his enemies:





In the days of Ahaz,...king of Judah, Rezin the king of Syria and Pekah the son of Remaliah the king of Israel came up to Jerusalem to wage war against it, but they could not conquer it...And the Lord said to Isaiah “Go forth to meet Ahaz...and say to him, ‘Take heed, be quiet, do not fear, and do not let your heart be faint...at the fierce anger of Rezin...and the son of Remaliah. Because Syria...and the son of Remaliah has devised evil against you saying “Let us go up against Judah and terrify it and let us conquer it for ourselves...” thus says the Lord God: “It shall not stand and it shall not come to pass...” Isaiah 7:1-7





Yet according to II Chronicles, Syria and Pekah did conquer Judah!





';Ahaz was 20 years old when he began his reign...[T]he Lord God gave him into the hand of the king of Syria, who defeated him and took captive a great number of his people...He was also given into the hand of the king of Israel who defeated him with great slaughter. For Pekah the son of Remaliah slew a hundred and twenty thousand in Judah in one day'; II Chronicles 28:1, 5-6,





I could go on and on but I think you get the idea that no TRUE prophet had to admit their false prophecies because there were no TRUE prophets in the bible.Did Isaiah,Ezekiel,Jeremiah,Daniel or any other true prophet have to admit to any of their false prophecies?
No. Prophecy is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and it is impossible for God to lie. Hebrews 1:1-2 - ';God who at sundry times in divers manners spake time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds';Did Isaiah,Ezekiel,Jeremiah,Daniel or any other true prophet have to admit to any of their false prophecies?
NO WAY... THEY WERE KNOWN TO TELL YOU THE NAKED TRUTH!!!





A LOT OF PROPHETS OF GOD WERE PREACHING AROUND NAKED FOR YOU!


1 Samuel 19 24 He* (*King Saul) STRIPPED OFF HIS ROBES and also prophesied in Samuel's presence. HE LAY THAT WAY ALL THAT DAY AND NIGHT. This is why people say, ';Is Saul also among the prophets?';* (*at that time, all the prophets of God were going around naked! That’s how King Saul was recognized as another prophet of God! This is the “naked truth” in the Bible!)





KING DAVID DANCED BEFORE THE LORD WITH HIS GENITALS EXPOSED.


2 Samuel 6:14, 20-23 * David, wearing a linen ephod, danced before the LORD with all his might... [20] When David returned home to bless his household, Michal daughter of Saul came out to meet him and said, ';HOW THE KING OF ISRAEL HAS DISTINGUISHED HIMSELF TODAY, DISROBING IN THE SIGHT OF THE SLAVE GIRLS OF HIS SERVANTS AS ANY VULGAR FELLOW WOULD!'; David said to Michal, ';IT WAS BEFORE THE LORD… I will become even more undignified than this, and I will be humiliated in my own eyes. But by THESE SLAVE GIRLS YOU SPOKE OF, I WILL BE HELD IN HONOR.'; And Michal daughter of Saul* (* the king who prophesied naked before the LORD) had no children to the day of her death.





(Read the whole story in full context by yourself! The lesson in the Bible is that no wife can complain about any husband dancing naked exposing his genitals before some girls and the LORD! Or the husband is authorized to stop having sex with his wife until she dies!)





HOW ABOUT GOING NAKED FOR THREE (3) YEARS AS A SIGN AND A WONDER UPON SOME ODDBALL FOREIGN COUNTRIES? You don’t have to say anything… just go about your daily chores totally NAKED – Hey, Christians got themselves a God that excels in refinements! This prophet prophesied the “virgin birth”.


Isaiah 20:2-3 (KJV) At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking NAKED and barefoot. And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked NAKED AND BAREFOOT THREE YEARS for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;





THE YOUNG PROPHET MICAH WOULD GET INTO A GODLY MOOD OF GOING NAKED AND DOING A STRANGE NUMBER ON HIMSELF!


Micah 1:8 Because of this I will weep and wail; I will go about barefoot and NAKED. I will howl like a jackal and moan like an owl.
Yes, sometimes prophesies didn't come true. Jeremiah received this revelation from the Lord explaining why:





';At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it; If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them. And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it; If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them. (Jeremiah 18:7-10)





Ezekiel relayed a prophecy to king Nebuchadrezzar, saying that he would be victorious against the city of Tyre, and that it would be destroyed. (Ezekiel 26:4, 7, 12, 14). Nebuchadrezzar tried but failed to take the city. Then Ezekiel, speaking for the Lord, promised that Nebuchadrezzar would be given the land of Egypt instead (Ezekiel 29:17-10). That didn't happen either.
None were or are false.
no
Their prophecys are not false they are just in the future.


I think that is the problem with most people. They do not view time the same way God does. The creation days are time periods that he knew we could not understand.


Eve thought that prophecy made in the garden of Eden applied to one of her sons. Over 4000 years before Jesus was even born. Genesis 3:15


God was not talking about humans but his spirit sons, Satan and Jesus. By Jesus being faithful and later he is destroying Satan this will all come true in due time. Just like the prophecy in Isaiah where he says the earth will be a paradise.


Daniel 12: the whole chapter tells about this paradise in which those now in the dust will awaken to a resurrection.


They all tell about a future paradise on earth.
They never made any false prophecies.
You're talking in circles again...might want to feed that squirrel in your skull before trying to make it do something strenuous...
They didn't make any or they would have been killed.
what are you talking about???? if they were a true prophet they wouldnt have made any false prophecies

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