In 1897 ';Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874,'; Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 4, page 621.
However I have been told my Jehovah witnesses that Jesus retuened in 1914.
';So does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet?...This ';prophet'; was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses...Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a ‘prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it.'; The Watchtower, 4/1/72, p. 197.If the Watchtower claims to be a prophet how can they have false prophecies?
2 Peter 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
That's why the J.W.'s claim that Jesus is not the Word who was with God and who is God but demote Him to the status of a created angel. It's a cult full of wolves in sheeps clothing.
Matthew 7:13 ';Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. 15 ';Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
';Jesus said to him, ';I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.'; Philip said to him, ';Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.'; Jesus said to him, ';Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. John 14:6-10
Ask a J.W what this passage means like I have and they will start tap dancing around the Scriptures and try to pass off some garbage about how it just means that Jesus is ';like'; God the Father but not the same.If the Watchtower claims to be a prophet how can they have false prophecies?
Since the 1870s, JWs expected Christ's ';return'; in 1914. They just did not understand that the ';return'; was more than a momentary ';coming'; but would be a heavenly ';presence'; that would continue for decades before it began to rule the earth
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Please read the sign Jesus gave at Matthew chap 24 and Luke chap 21 and ask yourself: how many ';moments'; would be required for these signs to be manifest to the global community?
Read also 2Tim 3:1-5; Mat 13:36-41; Dan 2:28;10:14; Mark 13
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I didn't know the group claimed being a prophet...
oh well...
my idea is whoever claims to be a prophet is more likely to be a false prophet... it's really hard...
Yes I listened to a whole series on counterfeit Christianity and that's exactly what the Watch Tower Organization is. They have made many prophecies that have never come to pass. I believe also in the 70's they predicted Abraham and Moses were going to be resurrected from the dead and come to live on the Earth.
In preparation the Watchtower Organization purchased a house for them to live in, in a great area of California. They actually deeded the house to where Abraham and Moses just had to go to city hall and prove they were who they were.
Funny though, when that never happend the leader of the Watch Tower Organization moved in for a little... gee I guess Abraham didn't get to enjoy is 1.some million dollar house...
People should not answer questions that they have no knowledge about. We read and use both the Old Testament and the New Testament and we use whatever tranlation we want. 2 Tim 3:16 says ';All scripture is inspired of God and beneficial.'; Not just the New Testament. Jesus has come. He was present as soon as he was resurrected. Since 1914 he has been ruling as King in Gods Kingdom. The one you pray for in the ';Lords Prayer';, remember? You quote from our magazines supposedly, but you don't print the whole thing.
Where do we get the year 1914?
SEVEN TIMES THAT AFFECT US
24 As represented by the great tree, Nebuchadnezzar symbolized world rulership. But remember, the tree stands for rulership and sovereignty far grander than that of Babylon’s king. It symbolizes the universal sovereignty of Jehovah, “the King of the heavens,” especially with respect to the earth. Before Jerusalem’s destruction by the Babylonians, the kingdom centered in that city with David and his heirs sitting on “Jehovah’s throne” represented God’s sovereignty with reference to the earth. (1 Chronicles 29:23) God himself had such sovereignty chopped down and banded in 607 B.C.E. when he used Nebuchadnezzar to destroy Jerusalem. Exercise of divine sovereignty toward the earth by a kingdom in the line of David was restrained for seven times. How long were these seven times? When did they begin, and what marked their end?
25 During Nebuchadnezzar’s madness, “his very hair grew long just like eagles’ feathers and his nails like birds’ claws.” (Daniel 4:33) This took longer than seven days or seven weeks. Various translations read “seven times,” and alternatives are “appointed (definite) times” or “time periods.” (Daniel 4:16, 23, 25, 32) A variant of the Old Greek (Septuagint) reads “seven years.” The “seven times” were treated as “seven years” by the first-century Jewish historian Josephus. (Antiquities of the Jews, Book 10, Chapter 10, paragraph 6) And certain Hebrew scholars have viewed these “times” as “years.” “Seven years” is the rendering in An American Translation, Today’s English Version, and the translation by James Moffatt.
26 Evidently, Nebuchadnezzar’s “seven times” involved seven years. In prophecy, a year averages 360 days, or 12 months of 30 days each. (Compare Revelation 12:6, 14.) So the king’s “seven times,” or seven years, were 360 days multiplied by 7, or 2,520 days. But what about the major fulfillment of his dream? The prophetic “seven times” lasted much longer than 2,520 days. This was indicated by Jesus’ words: “Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.” (Luke 21:24) That ‘trampling’ began in 607 B.C.E. when Jerusalem was destroyed and the typical kingdom of God ceased to function in Judah. When would the trampling end? At “the times of restoration of all things,” when divine sovereignty would again be manifested toward the earth through symbolic Jerusalem, the Kingdom of God.—Acts 3:21.
27 If we were to count 2,520 literal days from Jerusalem’s destruction in 607 B.C.E., that would bring us only to 600 B.C.E., a year having no Scriptural significance. Even in 537 B.C.E., when the liberated Jews were back in Judah, Jehovah’s sovereignty was not manifested on the earth. That was so because Zerubbabel, the heir to David’s throne, was made not king but only governor of the Persian province of Judah.
28 Since the “seven times” are prophetic, we must apply to the 2,520 days the Scriptural rule: “A day for a year.” This rule is set out in a prophecy regarding the Babylonian siege of Jerusalem. (Ezekiel 4:6, 7; compare Numbers 14:34.) The “seven times” of earth’s domination by Gentile powers without interference by God’s Kingdom therefore spanned 2,520 years. They began with the desolation of Judah and Jerusalem in the seventh lunar month (Tishri 15) of 607 B.C.E. (2 Kings 25:8, 9, 25, 26) From that point to 1 B.C.E. is 606 years. The remaining 1,914 years stretch from then to 1914 C.E. Thus, the “seven times,” or 2,520 years, ended by Tishri 15, or October 4/5, 1914 C.E.
29 In that year “the appointed times of the nations” were fulfilled, and God gave rulership to “the lowliest one of mankind”—Jesus Christ—who had been considered so base by his foes that they even had him impaled. (Daniel 4:17) To enthrone the Messianic King, Jehovah loosened the symbolic iron and copper bands around the “rootstock” of his own sovereignty. The Most High God thus allowed a royal “sprout” to grow from it as a manifestation of divine sovereignty toward the earth by means of the heavenly Kingdom in the hands of David’s greatest Heir, Jesus Christ. (Isaiah 11:1, 2; Job 14:7-9; Ezekiel 21:27) How we thank Jehovah for this blessed turn of events and for unraveling the mystery of the great tree!
Have a great day!
Despite the lying slander of anti-Witness agitators, Jehovah's Witnesses have humbly taught that they are *NOT* infallible and *NOT* inspired by God; that's more than 125 years of such clear denials.
Jehovah's Witnesses apply the term ';prophet'; only in a very limited sense to themselves as a religion, not to individuals. The Scriptures indicate that whenever Jehovah purposes to execute judgment upon a people, he always makes arrangment for a 'prophet's work' as a warning. Their self-description as a ';prophet'; (in this limited sense) does not indicate special inspired knowledge or foreknowledge, but their willingness to perform Christ's assigned warning work.
What group is working harder than Jehovah's Witnesses to preach God's message globally?
(Amos 3:7) For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets.
(2 Peter 2:5) Noah, a preacher of righteousness...
(Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
Learn more at Jehovah's Witnesses' official website:
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First understand that the Watchtower claims to be a prophet and is really a false prophet.
Second the Watchtower does everything to make sure its people do not learn the truth. They are very control oriented.
Here is some of their other errors:
1916: We see no reason for doubting, therefore, that the Times of the Gentiles ended in October, 1914; and that a few more years will witness their utter collapse and the full establishment of God's kingdom in the hands of Messiah.'; (';Watchtower Reprints,'; VI, Sept 1, 1916, p.5950)
1917: ';Also, in the year 1918, when God destroys the churches wholesale and the church members by million, it shall be that any that escape shall come to the works of Pastor Russell to learn the meaning of the downfall of Christianity.'; (';The Finished Mystery,'; 1917 edition, p.485)
';The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year.'; (';Watchtower,'; Jan.1, 1925)
Very easily.
1914 was the day they beleive Satan and 1/3 of the angles were cast out of heaven. They even give you a formula, and some time line. I dont think they are prophets more than they analyze biblical time lines and things. Out of most christian grous I feel the Witnesses follow the Bible to the T. Its not always a good thing or smart on their part, but they are well versed and Knowledgeable when it comes to the Good Book!
They claim that a prophet is someone that admits they were wrong..Mos JWs dont read the old stuff because their church tells them not to.
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